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<title>BossTalks.com Topic: Do Extreme strategies leave managers alone?</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:25:06 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>white on "Do Extreme strategies leave managers alone?"</title>
<link>http://www.bosstalks.com/topic/50#post-118</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;I am not mixing these, I'm just trying to look at things with more wide angle then you do.  Yes, we can divide any process into some parts, but they are stay interconnected.  Development process is fine.  However, didn't you ever see a very qualified person, a senior technical specialist, who lacks knowledge how to manage people or time?  It's an essential knowledge, but not that much of technical geeks know how to do this right, if ever interested at all.
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<title>andy on "Do Extreme strategies leave managers alone?"</title>
<link>http://www.bosstalks.com/topic/50#post-113</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;I think you mix up personal management and project maangement. As open-source projects and startup companies show there is no little need for project management if there are enough Senior developers and the projects have enough freedom from the business driving the project.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Developing software is a Craftsmanship type of business something between art/creativity and skills/knowledge. In the old days there were no need to manage a craftsman because he knew what and how to do it. As soon as we started to replace them with underqualified personel management became importent as well as quality assurance. I am convinced that any project is better of with a small set of highly skilled and experienced developers that with a army of junior developers and believe many senior developers still as juniors in my book.
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<title>white on "Do Extreme strategies leave managers alone?"</title>
<link>http://www.bosstalks.com/topic/50#post-105</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>white</dc:creator>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;I was pretty surprised with one book's point saying that ''Extreme strategies require a little of planning and its done right in time. As the result this leaves Senior managers in a rather unsettled condition.&quot; While I can agree about planning part, I don't really feel the same about managers. You either like it or not, the world without management leads to chaos and disorder.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm also pretty concerned about the point that teams in agile strategies are mature enough to stay away of regular supervision and need some time to be on their own. That's a total crap. You may wish it to be so, but it's never so ''by default&quot; or just because of the strategy which you picked. It's a silly point and very wrong to mix people management with product or project management process. These things are interconnected, but I really don't believe that there is a direct influence can exist in the general parts.
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