Hello,
I'm from East Europe, Serbia and I'm interested in what do you think about outsourcing some of your business to the people in the East Europe.
Maybe we can make some deal that both sides would be satisfied.
Cheers :)
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Hello,
I'm from East Europe, Serbia and I'm interested in what do you think about outsourcing some of your business to the people in the East Europe.
Maybe we can make some deal that both sides would be satisfied.
Cheers :)
Well,
Actually, personally I am pretty open to outsourcing. It's not always helpful, but sometimes it can do the job. Just in example, we do outsource, and even in two different directions (geographically :-). But we outsource only design and development, management we leave onsite in US. ;-)
However, unfortunatelly to "outsourcers", nowadays their rates are reaaaally going up, making them pretty close to the rates which in US you can pay somebody in less expensive state (example: compare rates in CA and OH ;-) And it's much easier to employ somebody in US (at least you have more control on this employee and you can expect more responsibility from him -- he would need your reference for the next job ;-) Many outsourcers screw up badly, fail with terms, fail with development piece, and they are very hard to manage.
Frankly speaking, recently I even concerned of hiring college-student, and "grow him up" onsite! He can start with as little as tiny above minimum wage, but once he'll learn more, you'll increase his salary. Or internships - still working nice.
As for the rates - I would not pay more than 10-20% to outsourcer over the sea comparing to local salary. Otherwise, it's too much headache (for me) for nothing. Even if job gets done (however, that's an issue - there are toooo many failed projects because of outsourcing them, when you are trying to catch big bucks ;-) - it's not that cheap anymore. It's hard to explain them, it's hard to catch control and manage, it's hard to make them understand things which you can just draw on a piece of napkin and show...
But!.. Don't take it personally -- I am not saying you are working bad, or something. I am just talking from my experience, and I did work with quite a few of outsourcers. ;-) Nevertheless, I still consider working with outsourcers. But I put everything on a scale very carefully
Correct!!..
First, i want to make my present here, this is arun from India and looking for good oppurtunities and outsourcing projects.
well .... as green mentioned the cost is a right reason to control the outsourcing. but if you take indians , we are developing products with very less cost. which is not there in many places in the world. And we have very strong communication and analatical and technical skills. Also we welcomes the outsourcing projects and oppurtunities.
Cheers ;)
Arun,
Cost for outsourcing rates is not always the best "description" of profit. Also it is necessary to have a special dedicated person to work with outsourcers. Really, overall - it become very expensive. In best cases, just very very close to hiring the same person locally. It's hard to work with outsourcers. First is the attitude of them - and you can hardly deal with it.
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